Yesterday, I did a system update with pamac. One of the apps would not update (see footnote) so I removed all orphans (in the GUI), thinking I’d run out of disk space as I have on another computer. I had to repeat this a few times before the orphans were all gone. I also did some cleanup ('pamac cle…

[image] johnsgp: Can I get a list of what was removed Yes. It prints to pacmans log. grep -i removed /var/log/pacman.log

Hi @johnsgp , I’d recommend following this guide: [image] [HowTo] Recovering from an interrupted update/upgrade Tutorials Difficulty: ★★☆☆☆ So you couldn’t wait until the update process had completed and you went for the reset/power button, didn’t you? smile…

[image] johnsgp: When I mount it, the mount is owned by root, and when I “rsync -a” to that, all the files are owned by root and have full permissions (-rwxrwxrwx) so it’s not a good sync. Maybe it’s because of the way it’s formatted? Microsoft filesystems do not support POSIX file ownership …

Just a suggestion to keep it simple: you can run the backup of your /home as root - but not with rsync. Use tar instead - it creates an archive, a single file, the contents of which are not affected by the capabilities and permissions of the underlying file system.

[image] johnsgp: I think I removed something that GNOME needs that was registered as an orphan. It is possible to look into the logfiles, to find what you did remove. Then it may be best to reinstall these. (Or rollback with timeshift) :footprints:

Hi @Mirdarthos , thanks for this tip but I don’t think it applies as I did not interrupt the update. It completed successfully.

Hi @cscs - this is exactly what I needed. I got hold of the list of deleted programs and reinstalled them, and all is well again! I don’t know which one(s) were the important ones but clearly, removing orphans is not safe. I will approach it with caution in future. I issued this command to fix it bu…

[image] johnsgp: sudo pamac install endeavour A few things to point out endeavor is not a package in repos or aur. Also … do not use sudo with pamac. [image] johnsgp: removing orphans is not safe Never has been, especially if you arent careful to mark packages as explicit, etc. In …

Thanks @Aragorn , I know that using a Windows FS is not a good idea, but I explicitly formatted the drive for general use when I bought it years ago (or so I thought), so my confusion is why fdisk says it’s type HPFS/NTFS/exFAT (I left out the ‘P’ yesterday). Stranger yet, when I mounted from the con…

I think after reinstalling Manjaro, I will switch to mostly using pacman.

[image] johnsgp: so my confusion is why fdisk says it’s type HPFS/NTFS/exFAT fdisk -l gives just the general type, not what file system it actually is If you want to know what file system is on the disk, use: lsblk -f for instance

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Hi @johnsgp,

I’d recommend following this guide:

Hope it helps!