External devices won't mount

Manjaro KDE, current on updates

An error occurred while accessing ‘7.5 GiB Removable Media’, the system responded: The requested operation has failed: Error creating mount point `/run/media/garlo/Lumix’: No space left on device

No external devices mount
System restarted fine, 300g free space on main drive
Unclear as to what device or file has no space left

Hi @VisiKDE,

Let’s see if we can find out. Please provide the output of:

free --human

As well as

df --human-readable

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Alternatively, paste the text you wish to format as terminal output, select all pasted text, and click the </> button on the taskbar. This will indent the whole pasted section with one TAB, causing it to render the same way as described above.

Thereby increasing legibility thus making it easier for those trying to provide assistance.

For more information, please see:

…free --human  :heavy_check_mark:
total used free shared buff/cache available
Mem: 18Gi 7.4Gi 4.2Gi 338Mi 7.1Gi 10Gi
Swap: 0B 0B 0B

…df --human-readable  :heavy_check_mark:
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
dev 9.4G 0 9.4G 0% /dev
run 9.4G 1.7M 9.4G 1% /run
/dev/nvme0n1p1 938G 656G 235G 74% /
tmpfs 9.4G 234M 9.2G 3% /dev/shm
tmpfs 9.4G 47M 9.4G 1% /tmp
/dev/loop0 219M 219M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/gnome-3-34-1804/77
/dev/loop1 128K 128K 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/bare/5
/dev/loop4 56M 56M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/core18/2566
/dev/loop2 56M 56M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/core18/2560
/dev/loop5 62M 62M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/core20/1611
/dev/loop8 92M 92M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/gtk-common-themes/1535
/dev/loop3 347M 347M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/gnome-3-38-2004/115
/dev/loop6 64M 64M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/core20/1623
/dev/loop7 347M 347M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/gnome-3-38-2004/119
/dev/loop9 82M 82M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/gtk-common-themes/1534
/dev/loop10 5.0M 5.0M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/kapman/64
/dev/loop11 5.0M 5.0M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/kapman/66
/dev/loop12 437M 437M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/kde-frameworks-5-96-qt-5-15-5-core20/7
/dev/loop13 438M 438M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/kde-frameworks-5-98-qt-5-15-6-core20/9
/dev/loop14 425M 425M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/kde-frameworks-5-qt-5-15-3-core20/8
/dev/loop15 46M 46M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/snap-store/592
/dev/loop16 46M 46M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/snap-store/599
/dev/loop18 48M 48M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/snapd/17029
/dev/loop17 48M 48M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/snapd/16778
/dev/sda1 974M 958M 0 100% /run/media/garlo
tmpfs 1.9G 108K 1.9G 1% /run/user/1000

Please format the output as @Mirdarthos suggested.

What’s a “backtick”?
I interpreted as … which how example appears to me

… where you write your posts, there is a menu in the top row of that editor window
with several symbols
for “quote”, “bold”, “italic”, “hyperlink”, “blockquote”, “preformatted text”
the last two of which you’ll need the most
“preformatted text” in this case here

hover the mouse and you’ll see what they mean, if that is not obvious from the symbol
… highlight the text (mouse) and then click the symbol

watch the right side (preview) as you do this …

Is it really that difficult to figure out? :wink:

your output wasn’t that badly unreadable - but with other output, proper formatting can really make a world of difference
properly formatted, you will see it here just like you see it in your own terminal, where the output came from

df --human-readable  :heavy_check_mark:
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
dev 9.4G 0 9.4G 0% /dev
run 9.4G 1.7M 9.4G 1% /run
/dev/nvme0n1p1 938G 656G 235G 74% /
tmpfs 9.4G 234M 9.2G 3% /dev/shm
tmpfs 9.4G 47M 9.4G 1% /tmp
/dev/loop0 219M 219M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/gnome-3-34-1804/77
/dev/loop1 128K 128K 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/bare/5
/dev/loop4 56M 56M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/core18/2566
/dev/loop2 56M 56M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/core18/2560
/dev/loop5 62M 62M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/core20/1611
/dev/loop8 92M 92M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/gtk-common-themes/1535
/dev/loop3 347M 347M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/gnome-3-38-2004/115
/dev/loop6 64M 64M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/core20/1623
/dev/loop7 347M 347M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/gnome-3-38-2004/119
/dev/loop9 82M 82M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/gtk-common-themes/1534
/dev/loop10 5.0M 5.0M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/kapman/64
/dev/loop11 5.0M 5.0M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/kapman/66
/dev/loop12 437M 437M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/kde-frameworks-5-96-qt-5-15-5-core20/7
/dev/loop13 438M 438M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/kde-frameworks-5-98-qt-5-15-6-core20/9
/dev/loop14 425M 425M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/kde-frameworks-5-qt-5-15-3-core20/8
/dev/loop15 46M 46M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/snap-store/592
/dev/loop16 46M 46M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/snap-store/599
/dev/loop18 48M 48M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/snapd/17029
/dev/loop17 48M 48M 0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/snapd/16778
/dev/sda1 974M 958M 0 100% /run/media/garlo
tmpfs 1.9G 108K 1.9G 1% /run/user/1000
free --human  :heavy_check_mark:
total used free shared buff/cache available
Mem: 18Gi 7.4Gi 4.2Gi 338Mi 7.1Gi 10Gi
Swap: 0B 0B 0B
free --human                                                                                                                                                                  ✔ 
               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:            18Gi        10Gi       384Mi       355Mi       8.0Gi       7.7Gi
Swap:             0B          0B          0B

df --human-readable                                                                                                                                                           ✔ 
Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
dev             9.4G     0  9.4G   0% /dev
run             9.4G  1.7M  9.4G   1% /run
/dev/nvme0n1p1  938G  662G  229G  75% /
tmpfs           9.4G  215M  9.2G   3% /dev/shm
tmpfs           9.4G   62M  9.3G   1% /tmp
/dev/loop1       56M   56M     0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/core18/2566
/dev/loop3      128K  128K     0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/bare/5
/dev/loop2       56M   56M     0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/core18/2620
/dev/loop4      219M  219M     0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/gnome-3-34-1804/77
/dev/loop0       64M   64M     0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/core20/1634
/dev/loop7      347M  347M     0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/gnome-3-38-2004/115
/dev/loop5       64M   64M     0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/core20/1695
/dev/loop8       82M   82M     0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/gtk-common-themes/1534
/dev/loop6      347M  347M     0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/gnome-3-38-2004/119
/dev/loop9      5.0M  5.0M     0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/kapman/64
/dev/loop10      92M   92M     0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/gtk-common-themes/1535
/dev/loop11     5.0M  5.0M     0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/kapman/66
/dev/loop12     437M  437M     0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/kde-frameworks-5-96-qt-5-15-5-core20/7
/dev/loop13     438M  438M     0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/kde-frameworks-5-98-qt-5-15-6-core20/9
/dev/loop15      46M   46M     0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/snap-store/599
/dev/loop14     425M  425M     0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/kde-frameworks-5-qt-5-15-3-core20/8
/dev/loop18      50M   50M     0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/snapd/17576
/dev/loop17      46M   46M     0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/snap-store/592
/dev/loop16      48M   48M     0 100% /var/lib/snapd/snap/snapd/17336
/dev/sda1       974M  958M     0 100% /run/media/garlo
tmpfs           1.9G  120K  1.9G   1% /run/user/1000

your disk is full

depending on the filesystem you use on that disk
you may be able to extend the capacity available to regular users by (at max.) 5 %
with the:
tune2fs …
command

if the file system is ext4 (or any of the ext variety)

… it’s full - move/delete stuff …

V14 lenovo
nvme0n1 is where manjaro is, along with 650g of 953g of files

sda1 is a 1t secondary hdd which I tried to install fedora on, it isn’t mounted
There is nothing of value on it
I would like to use it for backup, but broke my system, the last time I messed with it, the mount point was wrong
Installing fedora let me have access to nvme0n1 & manjaro again, I’ve been using it like this for some months

I have no idea what that might mean.

What is it that you want to do, right now, but cannot?

I would like to Connect an external drive, so I can backup, before
Making sda a 2nd operating system, with my backup on it

When I look at dolphin devices copy the properties:
/dev/nvme0n1p1
/run/media/garlo/dev/sda1 listed as 1g


I can’t just delete anything on here like timeshift 870m from dolphin
Timeshift was a failed backup attempt

Then the is fedora live on the rest of sda & not mountable

But /dev/sda is just 1 GB ins size - you cannot really install an OS there.
If you want to delete the stuff that is currently on it, but cannot
(how do you know - what sort of response do you get when you try to delete ?)
then just reformat the device
or use sudo (root rights) to remove whatever is on there.

I still seem to have no idea of what you actually want to do and what your problem with doing that is. :man_shrugging:

I want to mount an external device & backup
When I look at KDE partition manager
sda has 2 partitions
sda1 is 1g formated ext4 960m used mounted
sda2 is 902g formatted btrfs 6g used not mounted

I can select the timeshift file on sda1, delete is grayed out

No idea why external stuff is mounting on sda, not the main nvme0n1 drive or how to fix make it more normal

If I reformat or delete sda, it will delete grub2, leaving me unable to boot

I do not see that
in what you have posted so far.
There is just one /dev/sda1 with ~1 GB in size (which is full)

no /dev/sda2

and your system / (root) is on /dev/nvme0n1p1

That is what I see.


Here’s best I can remember is how I got here
I shot myself in the foot several times
I was trying to make a sym link from the main system to sda when I 1st set up this computer up in 2019
Some time later I realized that sda wasn’t being used
the system worked, but no access to sda, didn’t care as nvme wasn’t full
Took another crack at it after some time, by changing the mount point sda & broke the bootloader
unsuccessfully installed fedora, but somehow reinstalled a bootloader
Again didn’t care, had a working system
Some time passed
I was trying to create a new backup, timeshift was broke when python2 had issues
Gave up on backup utilities I couldn’t get them to work
Did a manual back up of content [unison]
Some time passed, I plugged in a sd card from a camera, got present error
I have folders with the same name on both drives, which makes it even more confusing

Back to the problem at hand

How do I switch the mount point for external devices from the secondary sda1 to nvme0n1 where it belongs ?

or delete any of the files on sda1 without borking my system?
or install a bootloader on nvme where it should be? also minus bork

I still have no clue what the problem is.

Your system is on the nvme disk
and /dev/sda1 is an external device, mounted by some rules
(probably set in /etc/fstab)
to /run/media/garlo

But somehow the bootloader is also on the extenal disk (and only there)?

I give up at this point.
I simply am incapable of understanding the problem.

Perhaps provide your system information (inxi) as is recommended.
Someone else will be able to help then.

CPU: 6-core AMD Ryzen 5 4500U with Radeon Graphics (-MCP-)
speed/min/max: 1659/1400/2375 MHz Kernel: 5.15.78-1-MANJARO x86_64
Up: 5d 2h 54m Mem: 16497.7/19162.1 MiB (86.1%) Storage: 1.81 TiB (35.7% used)
Procs: 369 Shell: Zsh inxi: 3.3.23

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