don’t worry about it , you all have already helped me a lot , but why can’t update garuda’s grub from live usb ?
you likely can
just chroot into it (Garuda) and do it.
Just like you did with Manjaro.
revert the changes you made to it while you are at it
It might even work again after that.
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but the thing is , if garuda’s bootloader breaks , i’ll have nothing left , so now we all down to last life in this game , no more chances , ahaha this one wrong move might end the discussion and my computer , so should i do it? :))
also should i look for bios updates and then try it ?
We are all going to die eventually - that is the single only one thing that is certain.
It was you who decided to put Garuda’s boot loader in charge of booting it - and Manjaro as well.
any updates (Bios updates included) will not change the situation
gather your data - save it, back it up
or learn how to change the boot order / sequence
recommendation:
delete the whole mess
(all the systems and multiple efi partitions)
and start over.
Make your life easier.
Cheers!
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after doing so much , you telling me to let it go ? man my hands ain’t ready to take such a risk and how can backup my data its almost 2tb , where will i store it , buying a new HDD will make it further more difficult since i already have 2 mounted on my pc. so should i try garuda thing ?
I wish , i was bold enough to take this step , but not for now , if i accidentally lose it , i’m okay but purposely
okay also one thing , if i delete this all , can i mount my qemu vms again on the fresh install , i have access to base images and the folder directory as well
Perhaps it’s best to backup any data in your Manjaro install, and reinstall Manjaro.
Then you can sort out the rest in time.
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so you mean the data will be safe on a reinstall and then i can have the new system to be totally normal , how to do it ?
… spread around multiple OS installations
some might call that:
irresponsible
NO -
but at least I can’t help anymore
such drives are not that expensive - especially if you consider old fashioned spinning drives
I could probably sell you 3 TB for 50 bucks right now - just from what I have
to get rid of the older hardware I’ll likely never use again
it’s your data, it’s your choice
if you keep the disk images - yes
You can also just relocate the data you want to keep onto one dedicated partition
and then get rid of the rest of the mess …
which data?
separate partition?
then it is easy.
not a separate partition?
it’ll be wiped out on reinstallation if you don’t take care of it before.
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I didn’t read the last 50 posts, but clearly the op has 1 disk with several oses on different partitions and one ESP partition with the boot loaders. And right now it is also clearly a mixed up mess. And we do not even know which bootloader actually boots manjaro.
There are 2 ways to approach this complex scheme: the best is to make the 2-3 oses completely independent. In each of them grub has to be reinstalled as per the manjaro wiki article with a distinct name!, os prober disabled and grub config updated. And you will switch from the bios menu.
The alternative is to enable os prober in every grub, so that every grub in every os will see the others. And boot them. That will, after some update of some os, stop working because of version mismatch - the first grub stage and menu will be from one os and the second from other, and that doesn’t always play nicely.
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well , i know it too , but i first installed garuda because it got all that hype , but later on i realised it wasn’t polished and very raw , then i got to know about manjaro , great system , and then i learned about virtualisation but low on storage , then i found EOS , good system , had kept good storage space for it and then used it , that’s why i have multiple os
internal or external?
okay now , i can think of it , maybe by tomorrow evening i can make my mind
okay , see i remember enhancing and reducing the storage of a partition using gparted now , i calculated on sdb i have approx 890gb space free , which means if i can make it one partition , i can store my most of the data on it , true ?
just separate partition or separate disk as well?
totally correct sir
uhm, like how is it to be done , i haven’t understood it , can you share the article as well
isn’t this a safe option for now?
Essentially
root # grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi --bootloader-id=Some_Fancy_Name --recheck
Just do not use generic name like linux…they have to be unique. And do NOT use --removable if you see it in some other guide.
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both
1 TB 3.5 inch external
the rest is 2.5 internal laptop style drives
all SATA
~600 MB to ~1 GB
but you don’t want that
I didn’t check current offers and demands for how appropriate 50 bucks would be.
It wold need to be shipped to you (cost #1)
from Germany …
and
I’d need to consolidate my data, which is spread across these multiple devices.
… some work to do …
not quite worth the effort for me, it seems 
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the link doesn’t seem to open , is it correct?
and to do this , i’ll have to boot from live usb and then chroot into every single os on this disk one by one and then edit their grub and give bootloader-id- (OS name)
am i right ?
either one - the former will suffice
What is important is that you can keep it
that you can exclude it
from being overwritten on any new installation
that you can keep it separate.
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A separate partition is enough, just be careful not to wipe it, or install an OS there.
All important data should be on a separate partition to any OS. That way, it’s easily shared between OSs and you can reinstall without having to move data around first.
Preferably, it should also be backed up to another drive.
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this!
then you can wipe the whole disk with no worries
It’s called a backup
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okay and what will be the best way to backup all this data , i have another disk of 5tb in which i have 2tb something of space , i can backup my data there and then wipe out all the three os and then do a fresh install of manjaro and will data be restored as well , since it would have been backed up by different os , like , how will i save my VM machines directory and their image
more like a backup supported by a backup
geeks for geeks is suggesting deja-dup
is it a good one ? because i’ll be backing up files as big as 100gb’s as i have few games installed on vm’s and what if the light goes out while backing up , will that corrupt the backup process and i’ll have to do it again?
… there you go …
read up on the options
compressed backups don’t take that much space - unless it’s virtually uncompressable data, like movie files
there are many ways