I have this Message in Journal
Feb 16 21:15:16 kernel: No matching power limits found for this system
Feb 16 21:15:16 kernel: Could not initialise PPT tunable control 0
Does anyone happen to know this?
I haven’t seen this myself, but some system info would likely help:
inxi -zv8
of course
inxi -v8zy  ✔
System:
Kernel: 6.13.2-2-MANJARO arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 14.2.1
clocksource: tsc avail: acpi_pm
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.13-x86_64
root=UUID=3f988f3f-2a6e-49ef-a0f4-ac16b4c7af86 rw mitigations=off
nowatchdog nvidia_drm.modeset=1 nvidia_drm.fbdev=1 split_lock_detect=off
libahci.ignore_sss=1 quiet udev.log_priority=3
Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 6.3.0 tk: Qt v: N/A info: frameworks v: 6.10.0
wm: kwin_wayland vt: 1 dm: SDDM Distro: Manjaro base: Arch Linux
Machine:
Type: Desktop System: ASUS product: N/A v: N/A serial: <superuser required>
Mobo: ASUSTeK model: ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO v: Rev 1.xx
serial: <superuser required> part-nu: SKU uuid: <superuser required>
UEFI: American Megatrends v: 2801 date: 11/29/2024
Battery:
Message: No system battery data found. Is one present?
Memory:
System RAM: total: 64 GiB available: 62.48 GiB used: 17.02 GiB (27.2%)
Message: For most reliable report, use superuser + dmidecode.
Array-1: capacity: 256 GiB slots: 4 modules: 2 EC: None
max-module-size: 64 GiB note: est.
Device-1: Controller0-DIMM0 type: no module installed
Device-2: Controller0-DIMM1 type: DDR5 detail: synchronous size: 32 GiB
speed: 7000 MT/s volts: note: check curr: 1 min: 1 max: 1 width (bits):
data: 64 total: 64 manufacturer: G Skill Intl part-no: F5-6800J3445G32G
serial: <filter>
Device-3: Controller1-DIMM0 type: no module installed
Device-4: Controller1-DIMM1 type: DDR5 detail: synchronous size: 32 GiB
speed: 7000 MT/s volts: note: check curr: 1 min: 1 max: 1 width (bits):
data: 64 total: 64 manufacturer: G Skill Intl part-no: F5-6800J3445G32G
serial: <filter>
PCI Slots:
Permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required.
CPU:
Info: model: Intel Core i9-14900KS bits: 64 type: MST AMCP arch: Raptor Lake
gen: core 14 level: v3 note: check built: 2022+ process: Intel 7 (10nm)
family: 6 model-id: 0xB7 (183) stepping: 1 microcode: 0x12C
Topology: cpus: 1x dies: 1 clusters: 12 cores: 24 threads: 32 mt: 8 tpc: 2
st: 16 smt: enabled cache: L1: 2.1 MiB desc: d-16x32 KiB, 8x48 KiB; i-8x32
KiB, 16x64 KiB L2: 32 MiB desc: 8x2 MiB, 4x4 MiB L3: 36 MiB desc: 1x36 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 800 min/max: 800/5900:6200:4500 scaling:
driver: intel_pstate governor: powersave cores: 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800 4: 800
5: 800 6: 800 7: 800 8: 800 9: 800 10: 800 11: 800 12: 800 13: 800 14: 800
15: 800 16: 800 17: 800 18: 800 19: 800 20: 800 21: 800 22: 800 23: 800
24: 800 25: 800 26: 800 27: 800 28: 800 29: 800 30: 800 31: 800 32: 800
bogomips: 203980
Flags: 3dnowprefetch abm acpi adx aes aperfmperf apic arat
arch_capabilities arch_lbr arch_perfmon art avx avx2 avx_vnni bmi1 bmi2
bts clflush clflushopt clwb cmov constant_tsc cpuid cpuid_fault cx16 cx8
de ds_cpl dtes64 dtherm dts epb ept ept_ad erms est f16c flexpriority
flush_l1d fma fpu fsgsbase fsrm fxsr gfni hfi ht hwp hwp_act_window
hwp_epp hwp_notify hwp_pkg_req ibpb ibrs ibrs_enhanced ibt ida intel_pt
invpcid lahf_lm lm mca mce md_clear mmx monitor movbe movdir64b movdiri
msr mtrr nonstop_tsc nopl nx ospke pae pat pbe pcid pclmulqdq pconfig pdcm
pdpe1gb pebs pge pku pln pni popcnt pse pse36 pts rdpid rdrand rdseed
rdtscp rep_good sdbg sep serialize sha_ni smap smep smx split_lock_detect
ss ssbd sse sse2 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 stibp syscall tm tm2 tpr_shadow tsc
tsc_adjust tsc_deadline_timer tsc_known_freq umip user_shstk vaes vme vmx
vnmi vpclmulqdq vpid waitpkg x2apic xgetbv1 xsave xsavec xsaveopt xsaves
xtopology xtpr
Vulnerabilities:
Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
Type: l1tf status: Not affected
Type: mds status: Not affected
Type: meltdown status: Not affected
Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Vulnerable
Type: retbleed status: Not affected
Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable
Type: spectre_v1 status: Vulnerable: __user pointer sanitization and
usercopy barriers only; no swapgs barriers
Type: spectre_v2 status: Vulnerable; IBPB: disabled; STIBP: disabled;
PBRSB-eIBRS: Vulnerable; BHI: Vulnerable
Type: srbds status: Not affected
Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
Device-1: NVIDIA AD103 [GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER] vendor: ASUSTeK
driver: nvidia v: 570.86.16 alternate: nouveau,nvidia_drm
non-free: 550/565.xx+ status: current (as of 2025-01) arch: Lovelace
code: AD1xx process: TSMC n4 (5nm) built: 2022+ pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s
lanes: 16 ports: active: none off: DP-1 empty: DP-2, DP-3, HDMI-A-1,
HDMI-A-2 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:2705 class-ID: 0300
Display: wayland server: X.org v: 1.21.1.15 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.5
compositor: kwin_wayland driver: X: loaded: nvidia
gpu: nvidia,nvidia-nvswitch display-ID: 0
Monitor-1: DP-1 model: LG (GoldStar) ULTRAGEAR+ serial: <filter>
built: 2023 res: mode: 2560x1440 hz: 240 scale: 150% (1.5) to: 1707x960
dpi: 110 gamma: 1.2 chroma: red: x: 0.678 y: 0.322 green: x: 0.255 y: 0.686
blue: x: 0.145 y: 0.055 white: x: 0.290 y: 0.302
size: 590x333mm (23.23x13.11") diag: 677mm (26.7") ratio: 16:9
modes: 2560x1440, 1920x1080, 1280x1024, 1280x720, 1024x768, 800x600,
720x480, 640x480
EDID-Warnings: 1: parse_edid: unknown tag 112
API: EGL v: 1.5 hw: drv: nvidia platforms: device: 0 drv: nvidia gbm:
drv: nvidia surfaceless: drv: nvidia wayland: drv: nvidia x11: drv: nvidia
API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 vendor: nvidia v: 570.86.16 glx-v: 1.4
direct-render: yes renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER/PCIe/SSE2
memory: 15.62 GiB display-ID: :0.0
API: Vulkan v: 1.4.303 layers: 6 device: 0 type: discrete-gpu name: NVIDIA
GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER driver: N/A device-ID: 10de:2705
surfaces: xcb,xlib,wayland
Info: Tools: api: clinfo, eglinfo, glxinfo, vulkaninfo
de: kscreen-console,kscreen-doctor gpu: nvidia-settings,nvidia-smi
wl: wayland-info x11: xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandr
Audio:
Device-1: Intel Raptor Lake High Definition Audio vendor: ASUSTeK
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel alternate: snd_soc_avs,snd_sof_pci_intel_tgl
bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:7a50 class-ID: 0403
Device-2: NVIDIA vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie:
gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:22bb
class-ID: 0403
Device-3: Realtek LG Monitor HP MIC driver: hid-generic,usbhid type: USB
rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 1-5.2.4:7
chip-ID: 0bda:4027 class-ID: 0300 serial: <filter>
Device-4: ASUSTek USB Audio driver: hid-generic,snd-usb-audio,usbhid
type: USB rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 1-6:3
chip-ID: 0b05:1a53 class-ID: 0300
API: ALSA v: k6.13.2-2-MANJARO status: kernel-api with: aoss
type: oss-emulator tools: alsactl,alsamixer,amixer
Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.2.7 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse
status: active 2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin
4: pw-jack type: plugin tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
Device-1: Intel Ethernet I226-V vendor: ASUSTeK driver: igc v: kernel pcie:
gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: N/A bus-ID: 07:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:125c
class-ID: 0200
IF: eno2 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
IP v4: <filter> type: dynamic noprefixroute scope: global
broadcast: <filter>
IP v6: <filter> type: dynamic noprefixroute scope: global
IP v6: <filter> type: dynamic noprefixroute scope: global
IP v6: <filter> type: dynamic noprefixroute scope: global
IP v6: <filter> type: noprefixroute scope: link
Info: services: NetworkManager,systemd-timesyncd
WAN IP: <filter>
Bluetooth:
Device-1: ASUSTek ASUS USB-BT500 driver: btusb v: 0.8 type: USB rev: 1.1
speed: 12 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 bus-ID: 1-5.2.2:5 chip-ID: 0b05:190e
class-ID: e001 serial: <filter>
Report: rfkill ID: hci0 rfk-id: 0 state: up address: see --recommends
Logical:
Message: No logical block device data found.
RAID:
Message: No RAID data found.
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 30.02 TiB used: 3.01 TiB (10.0%)
SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 990 PRO 2TB
size: 1.82 TiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s
lanes: 4 tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: 4B2QJXD7 temp: 47.9 C
ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1 maj-min: 259:1 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 990 PRO 2TB
size: 1.82 TiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s
lanes: 4 tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: 4B2QJXD7 temp: 54.9 C
scheme: GPT
ID-3: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 EVO 2TB
size: 1.82 TiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s
tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: 2B6Q scheme: GPT
ID-4: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 EVO 1TB
size: 931.51 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s
tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: 2B6Q scheme: MBR
ID-5: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 vendor: Toshiba model: MG10ACA20TE
size: 18.19 TiB block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s
tech: HDD rpm: 7200 serial: <filter> fw-rev: 0104
ID-6: /dev/sdd maj-min: 8:48 vendor: Seagate model: ST3000NM0033-9ZM178
size: 2.73 TiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s
tech: HDD rpm: 7200 serial: <filter> fw-rev: SN07 scheme: GPT
ID-7: /dev/sde maj-min: 8:64 vendor: Seagate model: ST3000NM0033-9ZM178
size: 2.73 TiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s
tech: HDD rpm: 7200 serial: <filter> fw-rev: SN07 scheme: GPT
Message: No optical or floppy data found.
Partition:
ID-1: / raw-size: 64 GiB size: 62.44 GiB (97.57%) used: 15.54 GiB (24.9%)
fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme1n1p4 maj-min: 259:5 label: System
uuid: 3f988f3f-2a6e-49ef-a0f4-ac16b4c7af86
ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 512 MiB size: 511 MiB (99.80%)
used: 25.9 MiB (5.1%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/nvme1n1p1 maj-min: 259:2 label: N/A
uuid: 69AE-0C54
ID-3: /home raw-size: 1.62 TiB size: 1.6 TiB (98.37%)
used: 173.33 GiB (10.6%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme1n1p6 maj-min: 259:7
label: home uuid: 2f172fb6-cd94-454a-84b9-aa8abb386b63
ID-4: /mnt/Downloads raw-size: 931.51 GiB size: 931.51 GiB (100.00%)
used: 195.16 GiB (21.0%) fs: ntfs dev: /dev/sdb1 maj-min: 8:17
label: Downloads uuid: C42E58082E57F1C2
ID-5: /mnt/GAMES raw-size: 1.82 TiB size: 1.79 TiB (98.37%)
used: 1.26 TiB (70.4%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 label: GAMES
uuid: 2c606cec-cfd4-4179-a786-62218237b2aa
ID-6: /mnt/Steam raw-size: 1.82 TiB size: 1.79 TiB (98.37%)
used: 1.37 TiB (76.7%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 label: Steam
uuid: 8f062e59-7564-4072-b6e8-bdcd0bcab11c
Swap:
Kernel: swappiness: 60 (default) cache-pressure: 100 (default) zswap: no
ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 72 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2
dev: /dev/nvme1n1p5 maj-min: 259:6 label: N/A
uuid: 9f240856-c7c9-4faf-9bbd-81800ec543c5
Unmounted:
ID-1: /dev/nvme1n1p2 maj-min: 259:3 size: 16 MiB fs: ext4 label: N/A
uuid: f3403ae5-693e-4a5e-a54f-d75dd2efce7f
ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1p3 maj-min: 259:4 size: 63.98 GiB fs: ntfs label: Windows
uuid: 96DC5053DC50302B
ID-3: /dev/sdd1 maj-min: 8:49 size: 2.73 TiB fs: ext4 label: ext4
uuid: 4d67db85-2293-4040-bdfa-e6012e151560
ID-4: /dev/sde2 maj-min: 8:66 size: 2.73 TiB fs: ntfs label: NTFS
uuid: C624E96724E95B47
USB:
Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 16 rev: 2.0
speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
class-ID: 0900
Hub-2: 1-5:2 info: Alcor Micro USB Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.0
speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 power: 100mA
chip-ID: 058f:6254 class-ID: 0900
Hub-3: 1-5.2:4 info: Realtek RTS5411 Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.1
speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 0bda:5411
class-ID: 0900
Device-1: 1-5.2.2:5 info: ASUSTek ASUS USB-BT500 type: bluetooth
driver: btusb interfaces: 2 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s) lanes: 1
mode: 1.1 power: 500mA chip-ID: 0b05:190e class-ID: e001 serial: <filter>
Device-2: 1-5.2.3:6 info: LG USA Monitor Controls
type: HID,abstract (modem),CDC-data driver: cdc_acm,hid-generic,usbhid
interfaces: 4 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 1.1
chip-ID: 043e:9a8a class-ID: 0a00 serial: <filter>
Device-3: 1-5.2.4:7 info: Realtek LG Monitor HP MIC type: HID
driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0
speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 power: 100mA
chip-ID: 0bda:4027 class-ID: 0300 serial: <filter>
Device-4: 1-6:3 info: ASUSTek USB Audio type: audio,HID
driver: hid-generic,snd-usb-audio,usbhid interfaces: 8 rev: 2.0
speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 power: 100mA
chip-ID: 0b05:1a53 class-ID: 0300
Hub-4: 1-7:8 info: ASMedia ASM1074 High-Speed hub ports: 4 rev: 2.1
speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 power: 100mA
chip-ID: 174c:2074 class-ID: 0900
Device-1: 1-7.3:10 info: ASUSTek ROG Claymore Gaming Keyboard
type: keyboard,HID driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 3 rev: 1.1
speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 power: 100mA
chip-ID: 0b05:184d class-ID: 0300
Device-2: 1-7.4:12 info: ASUSTek ROG GLADIUS III type: HID,mouse
driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 3 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s)
lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 power: 100mA chip-ID: 0b05:197b class-ID: 0300
Hub-5: 1-8:9 info: ASMedia ASM1074 High-Speed hub ports: 4 rev: 2.1
speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 power: 100mA
chip-ID: 174c:2074 class-ID: 0900
Hub-6: 1-10:11 info: Alcor Micro USB Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.0
speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 power: 100mA
chip-ID: 058f:6254 class-ID: 0900
Device-1: 1-11:13 info: ASUSTek AURA LED Controller type: HID
driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s)
lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 power: 16mA chip-ID: 0b05:18f3 class-ID: 0300
serial: <filter>
Hub-7: 2-0:1 info: super-speed hub ports: 9 rev: 3.1
speed: 20 Gb/s (2.33 GiB/s) lanes: 2 mode: 3.2 gen-2x2 chip-ID: 1d6b:0003
class-ID: 0900
Hub-8: 2-6:2 info: Realtek Hub ports: 2 rev: 3.2
speed: 5 Gb/s (596.0 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 chip-ID: 0bda:0411
class-ID: 0900
Hub-9: 2-7:3 info: ASMedia ASM1074 SuperSpeed hub ports: 4 rev: 3.0
speed: 5 Gb/s (596.0 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 power: 8mA
chip-ID: 174c:3074 class-ID: 0900
Hub-10: 2-8:4 info: ASMedia ASM1074 SuperSpeed hub ports: 4 rev: 3.0
speed: 5 Gb/s (596.0 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 power: 8mA
chip-ID: 174c:3074 class-ID: 0900
Hub-11: 3-0:1 info: hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 2 rev: 2.0
speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
class-ID: 0900
Hub-12: 4-0:1 info: super-speed hub ports: 2 rev: 3.1
speed: 10 Gb/s (1.16 GiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-2x1 chip-ID: 1d6b:0003
class-ID: 0900
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 49.5 C mobo: 38.0 C
Fan Speeds (rpm): fan-1: 1308 fan-2: 1340 fan-3: 1202 fan-4: 0 fan-5: 0
fan-6: 0 fan-7: 0
Repos:
Packages: pm: pacman pkgs: 1370 libs: 373 tools: pamac pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
Active pacman repo servers in: /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
1: https://manjaro.ynh.ovh/unstable/$repo/$arch
2: https://nnenix.mm.fcix.net/manjaro/unstable/$repo/$arch
3: https://codingflyboy.mm.fcix.net/manjaro/unstable/$repo/$arch
4: http://kartolo.sby.datautama.net.id/manjaro/unstable/$repo/$arch
5: http://free.nchc.org.tw/manjaro/unstable/$repo/$arch
Processes:
CPU top: 5 of 494
1: cpu: 137% command: python3 pid: 1837 mem: 12054.8 MiB (18.8%)
2: cpu: 21.8% command: kwin_wayland pid: 960 mem: 517.9 MiB (0.8%)
3: cpu: 5.2% command: firefox pid: 1830 mem: 878.1 MiB (1.3%)
4: cpu: 1.9% command: firefox pid: 6123 mem: 270.9 MiB (0.4%)
5: cpu: 1.6% command: firefox pid: 1937 mem: 443.2 MiB (0.6%)
Memory top: 5 of 494
1: mem: 12054.8 MiB (18.8%) command: python3 pid: 1837 cpu: 137%
2: mem: 878.1 MiB (1.3%) command: firefox pid: 1830 cpu: 5.2%
3: mem: 570.7 MiB (0.8%) command: plasmashell pid: 1105 cpu: 0.0%
4: mem: 533.7 MiB (0.8%) command: ./src/bin/live_release/SwarmUI pid: 1653
cpu: 0.1%
5: mem: 517.9 MiB (0.8%) command: kwin_wayland pid: 960 cpu: 21.8%
Info:
Processes: 494 Power: uptime: 2h 5m states: freeze,mem,disk suspend: deep
avail: s2idle wakeups: 0 hibernate: platform avail: shutdown, reboot,
suspend, test_resume image: 24.92 GiB services: org_kde_powerdevil,
power-profiles-daemon, upowerd Init: systemd v: 257 default: graphical
tool: systemctl
Compilers: clang: 19.1.7 gcc: 14.2.1 Shell: Zsh v: 5.9 default: Bash
v: 5.2.37 running-in: konsole inxi: 3.3.37
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PPT seems to be an abbreviation of “power package tracking”
google:
ppt power package tracking linux kernel
one of the hits:
Ryzen 7000 linux idle power, what's normal? High CPU PPT - CPU - Level1Techs Forums
Perhaps a not supported or configured sensor?
This is pure speculation, even though you asked whether someone knew …
I certainly don’t. 
Are i have Intel CPU
That is the one thing I do know - it is plainly visible in your inxi output.
still:
Damned if I know whether that is specific only to AMD processors - but I doubt it.
It was the only piece of the puzzle I could find and the link was just the first search result.