In the Manjaro settings there are language settings and language package settings. At the packages there are new not installed language packages after the installation of some packages (e.g. thunderbird). Because my languages (German and English) are already configured in the language settings, I am a little bit confused. Why are the language packages for my configured languages not installed automatically when I install new packages? Is there some additional configuration necessary? Is there a command to install all languages packages for my languages and installed packages?
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Because Manjaro is based on Arch Linux.
Actually no. Simply add the language pack. Normally, English is the default setting. The Manjaro settings are only a small help. Normally, users know that language packs are separate and need to be installed if required.
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You can manage Languages and Locale properly from Manjaro Settings Manager.
Where would be the place to file an issue at Arch Linux for that? Today, many new users would probably expect this.
Maybe this small helper could get a proper CLI. Today its quite small:
Usage: manjaro-settings-manager [options]
Manjaro Settings Manager
Options:
-h, --help Displays help on commandline options.
--help-all Displays help including Qt specific options.
-d, --debug Verbose output for debugging purposes.
-m, --module <module> Module to open at start.
Feature request for this tool are correctly placed here, right?
Hmm - the selected locale may not be indicative of what language packs is desired by the user.
I would advise against creating an issue with Arch Linux as that will only get you banned and the issue closed.
Arch Linux requires the user to install packages they deem required and/or necessary and therefore a request targeted upstream is doomed to fail.
I think the current approach where the user actively select to install the language packs is the correct approach.
One example is my use - I install the danish locale to have certain settings in my locale - but I most certainly do not want any danish language packs installed for e.g. firefox or libreoffice.
If I want those language packs installed I know where to find them.
Manjaro Settings Manager is a convenience tool to easily install the relevant language packs.
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I am a bit confused, because in other distributions (e.g. Linux Mint), a normal user never has to care about language packages. They seem to be able to choose them automatically based on your language settings.
A possibility, which is not active by default, to install language packages together with corresponding package would be no harm. For example a similar approach as the “optional dependencies”. I know that the goal of usability is more part of Manjaro than in Arch, but is there really the risk to get banned from Arch Community because of suggestions to improve usability?
Yes, and Linux Mint inherited it from Ubuntu and Ubuntu from Debian. So it’s a fundamental concept in Debian.
Arch Linux follows a different philosophy, where it’s more about KISS than ease of use. Manjaro makes it a little more comfortable, but it also inherits this characteristic:
Quote:
Whereas many GNU/Linux distributions attempt to be more user-friendly, Arch Linux has always been, and shall always remain user-centric. The distribution is intended to fill the needs of those contributing to it, rather than trying to appeal to as many users as possible. It is targeted at the proficient GNU/Linux user, or anyone with a do-it-yourself attitude who is willing to read the documentation, and solve their own problems.
Arch Linux - ArchWiki
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A normal user probably selects their desired language during installation of the OS. Those languages will dictate the language settings on any given system, so there’s no surprise that packages seem to be automatically selected.
I see no issue here.
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My language packs for various applications install along other packages during the system updates. You may need to install them from MSM initially, but as far as I’m concerned, I do not have to install them manually on every update.
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