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How to connect my new android tablet to my computer
« on: 02. April 2014, 22:23:03 »
Hi there,

I have bought a new ASUS Memopad 10 tablet. Android 4.2 is running on it.
As I connect it to my computer via USB, the tablet gives me a notification that it is connected as a media device, however it does not appear in the file manager (Thunar).

gMTP has been suggested in another thread but it does not recognize my device either.

mtp-detect says the following:
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Unable to open ~/.mtpz-data for reading, MTPZ disabled.libmtp version: 1.1.6
Any idea, how to solve this issue?
« Last Edit: 02. April 2014, 23:11:46 by dzsobacsi »

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Re: How to connect my new android tablet to my computer
« Reply #1 on: 03. April 2014, 00:53:38 »
well, I know next to nothing about Android devices other than playing a bout a little bit with emulating one in VB...

but looking at that message would suggest that something in the Android is set not to allow it to be read... so perhaps it's something in the settings on the droid?

I know when trying to install the ndroid OS in VB, it always asks if I want to make the system open for reading and writing (and it always fails to install anyway, even though it will run fine from the "liveCD")

I have not messed with it a lot since it ishorribly slow on my old computer, so I am not sure what all settings might be avaialable in the Android, but if Manjaro is saying it can't open to read , maybe it's something with the Android device?

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Re: How to connect my new android tablet to my computer
« Reply #2 on: 03. April 2014, 05:08:37 »
On your tablet, you have to go into settings/developer option/ and make sure "usb debugging" is enabled. Then when you plug in your device into your computer, you should get a notification to connect to pc, if you want to transfer media, choose accordingly, and then choose connect to pc (or what ever the box says). Then your devices should appear in thunar.
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Re: How to connect my new android tablet to my computer
« Reply #3 on: 03. April 2014, 21:11:10 »
Thanks for the tip but it has not been worked. 
Enabling USB debugging was a bit challenging but I managed to do that according to this:
http://docwiki.embarcadero.com/RADStudio/XE5/en/Enabling_USB_Debugging_on_an_Android_Device

The dialog box about USB debugging does not appear as I connect the tablet to the computer.
I does not appear in Thunar either.
The tablet gives me 2 notifications: The first is the same as before: Connected as media device, the second is: USB debugger connected.
mtp-detect gives the same output as before.

Any other idea?

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Re: How to connect my new android tablet to my computer
« Reply #4 on: 03. April 2014, 21:14:37 »
Confirm gvfs-mtp is installed. (if it's not, install it and reboot)
So long as it is, it should work in Thunar.

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Re: How to connect my new android tablet to my computer
« Reply #5 on: 03. April 2014, 22:00:28 »
Yes, it is installed. Its version number is 1.18.3-3

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Re: How to connect my new android tablet to my computer
« Reply #6 on: 03. April 2014, 23:41:27 »
Connect as a media device didn't work?.... huh?
I use the KDE desktop and have had no issues of it not mounting my devices file systems.
There is an app in the play store call ftp server for your tablet. On manjaro install filezilla. Then you can use this to transfer files that you want on your device, for now at least untill you can figure out why it wont mount. There is a tutorial to show you how to connect to your device on youtube, I just can't find it right now.
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Re: How to connect my new android tablet to my computer
« Reply #7 on: 03. April 2014, 23:44:25 »
Connect as a media device didn't work?.... huh?

MTP devices work fine for me in Manjaro too.

OP your problem is not inherent to Manjaro, but to your particular device/setup/hardware.

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Re: How to connect my new android tablet to my computer
« Reply #8 on: 04. April 2014, 00:08:39 »
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tablet gives me a notification that it is connected as a media device,

My computer didn't "see" my Android phone when it was connected for (IIRC) "Media Transfer", but after plugging it in, it would ask if you wanted "MEdia Transfer" or "USB Mass storage" (Again, IIRC the exact name); with "Mass Storage" I could see its file system and copy files back and forth with thunar. And I think the (non-working) default was "Media".

So - perhaps check & change how the tablet wants to connect.

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Re: How to connect my new android tablet to my computer
« Reply #9 on: 04. April 2014, 00:11:21 »
My computer didn't "see" my Android phone when it was connected for (IIRC) "Media Transfer", but after plugging it in, it would ask if you wanted "MEdia Transfer" or "USB Mass storage" (Again, IIRC the exact name); with "Mass Storage" I could see its file system and copy files back and forth with thunar. And I think the (non-working) default was "Media".

So - perhaps check & change how the tablet wants to connect.

Many modern Android devices no longer support UMS, only MTP.
But certainly the OP can check.

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Re: How to connect my new android tablet to my computer
« Reply #10 on: 04. April 2014, 07:52:15 »
There are alternatives if nothing works: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MTP

You did unlock your phone before connecting ?

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Re: How to connect my new android tablet to my computer
« Reply #11 on: 04. April 2014, 08:20:30 »
So newer Android devices uses a restricted  transfer protocol developed by Microsoft.
Another reason not to buy Android.
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Re: How to connect my new android tablet to my computer
« Reply #12 on: 04. April 2014, 10:04:01 »
Thanks for the lot of answers.

@drewDaeye: Meanwhile, I have copied my files with an USB stick. It took long, but it worked :) FTP can be another way. I may give it a try later. Bluetooth is another option I was thinking on but it may be too slow to copy some gigabytes of data. I hardly ever used BT before.

@Flemur: There are 2 options I can choose from in my Android. One is media device (MTP) the other is camera (PTP). I have not seen any option for Mass Storage. However, if I remember well, my cellphone which has an older version of Android (4.0 - ICS, I think) supports USB Mass Storage as well. This is exatly the point why I am pretty disappointed. I did not expect any problem with a new Android device.

@Verändert2.0: I have already tried simple-mtpfs without success. I plan to give a go of go-mtpfs, too.

Let's go back to my first post for a moment. Do you have any idea what is the file ~/.mtpz-data used for? What if would try it with root privileges?

Unfortunately, I will have no time to deal with this issue before Monday evening.
I will be back.

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Re: How to connect my new android tablet to my computer
« Reply #13 on: 04. April 2014, 10:09:35 »
Hi dzsobacsi,

Have you tried an app call AirDroid?
It connects your android device to your pc through a wifi network or internet. The android device and your pc have to be on the same wifi network or internet. I don't know how secure the transfer is.

Here is the info from Google Play:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sand.airdroid
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Re: How to connect my new android tablet to my computer
« Reply #14 on: 04. April 2014, 10:38:03 »
Does KDEconnect only work with phones?